Sabi boi:Good evening gentlemen...how's your weekend been?personally?
Ekanem:
Good morning Sabi...well its been very relaxing; lots of good football to watch
OKEY:
My weekend has been good but the Arsenal win made it even better
Tosman:
Good evening guys....it has been an amazing weekend...one that will live long in my memory
Tosman:
And It seems ekanem is using mecca time
OKEY:
Lol
Sabi boi:
@ ekanem-morning,must be very relaxing... and the Arsenal win...good good..My weekend has been okay.There were a lot of sounds/noise,comments coming from the north of London but the one comment or phrase I heard this weekend that I haven't heard in a while.."in wenger we trust"..so wenger is still the right man for Arsenal then?
Sabi boi:
Is this(against Tottenham) win the beginning of things to come?...is Arsenal back on winning ways for good or its a case of what if?what if there was no red card?
Tosman:
Oh yeah, Wenger will always be the right man for the job especially if they maintain their top four status every season but am not sure the fans would have been singing if Adebayor wasn't sent off.
Ekanem:
Honestly I still think he is; but I have to say we shouldn't be carried away with this win just yet. Let arsenal not feel this is the beginning of better things to come. There were still problems with the team that showed despite the result
Ekanem:
The two goals were very avoidable. They were due to bad decisions made by arsenal players
Ekanem:
And there will always be what ifs? The bottom line is we got the 3 points. As the old football adage goes, you can only beat what is in front of you.
OKEY:
Wenger is the right man for the job but this team can't win the league without a few more additions during the january transfer window
Sabi boi:
What additions will help Okey?What positions do u think arsenal lack in?
OKEY:
I think a top striker and a good defender would be great and if arsenal can swap Walcott for Sterling as was in the news it would strengthen the team
OKEY:
But from the news report arsenal would have to pay extra to get sterling kinda like the Eto'o n Ibrahimovic switch
Ekanem:
@ okey I wouldn't support that switch at the moment
Sabi boi:
Sterling for walcott.....interesting..suarez for giround?
Ekanem:
Lol
Sabi boi:
@ ekanem,problems with the team how?and @ tosman..are u saying fourth place is all Arsenal wants for seasons to come...can't Wenger challenge for the title?
Tosman:
Judging from their past two or three seasons, it seems fourth place is becoming an achievement for them.
Sabi boi:
Since there will always be what ifs.What if Adebayo had stayed on the pitch..what do u think would have happened?And I ask again..u beat what was infront of you so what are the problems @ekanem
OKEY:
Well in the 1st 15 mins or there about the defending was quite shaky and Tottenham could have exploited those problems if Adebayor had been on the pitch
Tosman:
I think its hard to judge based on this result because of how spurs played before the red card but you still have to give credit to Arsenal because of the way they tore spurs apart afterwards
Sabi boi:
They tore a ten man team apart,the game was over once the red card was shown...and the shaky defence u speak about was just one man..per matersacker...so yes u have injuries but he was the weak link?
Ekanem:
One bad match doesn't make a player questionable. Every player has a bad day in the office
Ekanem:
He was punished for his mistakes in this match. But I don't think he was the only player that was nervy earlier on. And I want to point out that he has been arsenals best centre half so far this season
Sabi boi:
But if the best is questionable..wouldn't that say u have a lot of problems to consider?and how will u solve those problem?
Sabi boi:
If we judge from past seasons...united will always win the title...let's judge with what we have now...Why cant arsenal win the league?Why can't they challenge?And if they can't win the league why is wenger the man for the job?
Tosman:
Arsenal can't win the league because they don't have the players that can consistently beat teams even when they don't play well. Teams like Man utd and Man city do win even when they are poor and Wenger is still the man because there are few available managers better than him right now.
Ekanem:
Its a tricky question to answer because its easy to think someone else would do better. But when you think about the limited resources at his disposal, I think he's still the man for the arsenal
OKEY:
Wenger is doing a good job. And in my opinion the better managers are not available at the moment
Sabi boi:
U say they are few manager better than him...so can't one from that few take his place?
Sabi boi:
Better managers like?can I have jus 2 names?
Sabi boi:
well 3 points for the Arsenal,Wenger getting his play right.What did Avb get wrong or right?
Tosman:
Avb didn't get his defence right. Gallas and Naughton shouldnt have played
Tosman:
Fine, Caulker was injured so Gallas can be played with Dawson and then Ventonghen should have played left back
Tosman:
Gallas has been showing signs that he is past his best since the season started
Tosman:
Walcott tore naughton into pieces
Sabi boi:
So your saying he started with the wrong defence line and as far as I know,walcott wasn't seen till the red card,are u being harsh on naughton?
Tosman:
Well, am saying based on what walcott did after the red card but still he started with the wrong defence
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Sabi boi:
How about damage limitation?seeing that he has two of the best wingers in the league(argueable)..why not defend then attack?almost paying off still doesn't mean it did?
Ekanem:
Yes but he tried. Damage limitation doesn't reduce the points lost
Sabi boi:
So goal difference doesn't matter in the league?city won it with goal difference..damage limitation allows u defend and hopefully hit on the break...3 points lost is 3 point lost but am sure 4-2 is better than 5-2?
Ekanem:
Who knows...if they got the 3rd goal the outcome might have been different
Sabi boi:
We really can't do what ifs for a formation that didn't work..or can we?
Ekanem:
We actually can in some situations...with 10 men he had the options of being restrictive or going all out. He chose the latter. All I'm saying is there were signs that it could have worked.
Sabi boi:
Why would the option with ten men ever be to go all out?
Sabi boi:
And we are talking about spurs..the principle of playing to your strengths shd always be there...why go all out when you know there's more harm?
Tosman:
playing with ten men can only be an option only if you are playing to win a championship or fighting a last day relegation battle
Ekanem:
Well it has worked for some teams
OKEY:
Its risky to go all out with ten men but considering the game and the timing I think it was the wrong decision but it has paid off on some occasions
Sabi boi:
As it didn't work for spurs,with ten men going for the win..then avb got it worng?
Ekanem:
He definitely got it wrong. I'm just applauding his bravery
Sabi boi:
And why applaud bravery when it shares a room with being daft? or the fan in you is happy he was daft?
Tosman:
I actually thought that spurs could hold their lead till half time or maybe on level terms but what happened didn't look good on the manager's part, maybe he should have told them to be a bit defensive
OKEY:
Avb did well with the players he had but playing Adebayor was bound to be either good or bad
Sabi boi:
@okey,u don't think good or bad as a manager,if there's an element of bad,why play him then?
OKEY:
I think most manager would have played Adebayor against Arsenal because of his record against àrsenal and his history with the team but this time the gamble didn't pay off
OKEY:
Adebayor is a good player and was definitely played for that but I believe manger also consider certain players records against certain team before they are played
Tosman:
I don't even consider playing adebayor as a gamble because he should be in their first team whether against arsenal or not
Sabi boi:
So okey,adebayo wasn't played for what he can do skillfully but because of his track record...should spurs buy drogba because of his record against arsenal?
Ekanem:
As a manager you can only prepare your team and hope it goes according to plan. He couldn't have planned for Adebayor to be red carded. I think he made a bold move in the 2nd half by taking his wing backs off and it nearly paid off
Sabi boi:
Once again...ur saying he didn't play adebayo thinking he could impact the game and help spurs win but he just wanted to be adventurous?@ekanem
Sabi boi:
Man of the match for u and why?@everyone
Tosman:
Man of the match was Carzola. Ran the show for arsenal plus an assist and a goal. Walcott did well I must mention
OKEY:
Man of the Match for me has to be Carzola because I think he contributed the most to the win and really controlled the game and also a goal and an assist doesn't hurt too
Ekanem:
Cazorla for me. He dictated the play and gave arsenal the impetus to attack
Sabi boi:
So with carzola..is the understanding between him and wilshere coming good now?
Ekanem:
Yes very much so. They switch positions better and I suspect jack has accepted that they can't both play the same roles.
Tosman:
Wilshere and Carzola combination can't be judged after this match. Time will tell bt I think they will come good
Tosman:
With two good players, one would think that they will try and work on their partnership the more and by playing together more often, one should hope so
Sabi boi:
But how do we know the understanding will continue,u just told me u can't judge from one match?
Ekanem:
I was cautious of saying that..but since you brought that up...yes I was glad
OKEY:
I think Carzola and Wilshere will certainly grow together with the right amount of games
Sabi boi:
Right amount of games?@okey are there wrong ones?
OKEY:
Yeah I think its too early to judge their partnership yet they need more games to gel properly
Sabi boi:
Giround as a striker....75 minutes one goal...walcott as a striker...5 mins one goal...not comparing but walcott as a striker..why not?
Tosman:
You cannot judge them like that. Walcott has a good scoring ratio when he plays as a striker but you can't just play him there because of that. For example. In madrid ronaldo would probably score more than benzema and higuain if he plays as a striker bt mourihno still play him as a winger because he knows he is more suited there. Am not trying to deviate though
Ekanem:
It would be unfair to use those statistics because walcott was moved to that position when the game was stretched. He has the potential to be a striker, I just don't think he should start games as one just yet. And remember he's one of the few natural wingers we have so I think he's more useful at the wings for now
OKEY:
I just think Walcott is more suited on the wings and can do real damage from the wings and Giroud cannot be compared to Walcott based on just this match
OKEY:
Based on the time of the goals
Sabi boi:
Walcott against reading...down the middle.hatrick!
Sabi boi:
First capital one game...walcott down the middle..hatrick...so why not...ekanem is worried he will loose him as a winger and okey thinks he not good as a striker....goals determine the wins right..if he can get the goals through the middle..then I ask again..wlacott as a striker..why not?
Ekanem:
Don't remember him playing down the middle...was an emotional game for me so I might be wrong
Ekanem:
And he's also getting the goals and assists from the wings
Ekanem:
Playing from the wings allows him to be more flexible because he can drift into wide positions or cut into the middle
Sabi boi:
So he shouldn't play as a striker cos he is suited more as a winger?how do u know where he is suited more when u don't play him as a striker?and I repeat,henry always came in from the wings...
Ekanem:
Henry played in a different system most of his arsenal career. It was a rigid 4-4-2 system where he had the freedom to drift in from the left side. The current system requires the forward to be able to hold the ball and have fluid movement around the box; 2 qualities i don't think walcott has mastered at the moment
Ekanem:
He should be tried in the traditionally smaller games or when the match is all but over like the North London derby. But wenger is not in a position to experiment at the moment
Sabi boi:
How can the formation be rigid but he still had the freedom?and please what movement are we talking about?
Ekanem:
Well I referred to rigid because it was the standard formation in the EPL at that time
Ekanem:
And the movement in the box I'm referring to is making intelligent runs behind or around defender. I agree walcott posseses speed but he sometimes lacks the awareness to perform some of those duties
Sabi boi:
And wenger is in no position to experiment?am sure gervinho has played down the middle this season..let me guess..he's better suited?
Ekanem:
Yes he is....as erratic as he can be,he has good movement around the box
Tosman:
Walcott has actually shown that he can do a job but I don't think wenger is convinced that isposition for him and seeing gervinho play as a striker, maybe walcott will be given a chance to stake his cliam fully very soon
Sabi boi:
Strikers can be said to be in box or out box strikers..could it be he is not an in box striker..henry wasn't an in box striker...so walcotT,why not?
Ekanem:
Henry was was a more intelligent player and read the game around him better than walcott has been
Sabi boi:
And the measure of intelligence is by what we see on tv right?
Ekanem:
Every form of intelligence is based on result or effect..and it football its by what we see on tv..so yes
Tosman:
Henry is actually a far better player and had a very good footballing sense than walcott. Am nt saying gervihno or giroud are better with their footballing sense but henry was very good
Tosman:
Oh yeah, we can only judge a player's intelligence by what we see
OKEY:
Henry has a better understanding of the game compared to walcott. Even during the Tottenham match when walcott played as a striker he looked lost on a few occasions
Sabi boi:
He looked lost and scored...if he was focused then hatrick?
Tosman:
Lol
Ekanem:
Four goals actually
OKEY:
Lol He had a chance he would have taken instinctively but he dragged it and only got a corner. Walcott is at his best as a winger the records show that too
Tosman:
@okey, the records has also shown that walcott can perform as a striker
OKEY:
@Igwe but better as a winger. Wenger knows that too that's why he plays him on the wings. It in the best interest of Arsenal that players play in the best position they can
Sabi boi:
WeLl time will tell but we would never know tiLl he is played there..
Sabi boi:
The week begins again...in wenger we trust being the echoed sound..its dinner time boys..have a gOod evening..
Sabi boi:
Or morning with ekenam
Tosman:
Nice one guys
Tosman:
Yeah dinner awaits
OKEY:
Same here
Ekanem:
Lol good night guys
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